Andrew Revkin

Beth Tellman-

who was at Columbia and she moved to Arizona, she and colleagues at this outfit called Cloud to Street did an amazing study showing, this is a year or so ago I wrote about, showing, again, we're moving into zones of hazard, which it applies to me, just what Bjorn was saying, that people wouldn't be doing that if they thought that was gonna lead to devastation.

And this is today, we're doing this now.

And it's flood zones, wildfire zones,

So that means there's these things to do.

There's so much plasticity in human behavior and how we build and where we build.

You can make a big, big change in the outcomes.

And by the way, what I was saying about past storms, the paleotempestology, past fires, it's the same thing.

We've suppressed fire in the United States for 100 years through much of the West, through wanting to save the forests, you know, the whole Smokey the Bear thing.

Don't stop.

When these are landscapes that evolved to burn,

And what happened in the last 100 years?

A lot of people love the West.

We love these environments.

We love to live with the trees.

The Boulder County area, the explosive development in zones of implicit hazard leads to big bad outcomes when conditions align.

And climate change is worsening some of those conditions.

And sometimes it's really counterintuitive.

A wet season builds more grass.

A dry season comes along, parches the grass.