Andrew Ross Sorkin

It's like a mafioso thing.

It's like, if I raise my hand and say there's a problem, I will be slaughtered.

That's what I think is, I mean, hopefully not literally slaughtered, but I think that is the calculus.

And I think the calculus is all of these people are thinking,

I want to be here.

I want the company to be here in not just tomorrow, but in two and three and four and five and 10 years from now.

And can I just play this out?

Can I just stick this out long enough to get to the other side, whatever you think the other side looks like?

So I do think that behind the scenes, there is consternation and anxiety and all sorts of things about what this administration does.

No question.

I mean, I think one of the reasons they don't speak out

um is because they're scared and privately they will tell you i am scared again this goes back to it almost doesn't matter how much money you have in your bank account or what's on your business card emotionally you're still you're still in that that scared place and that's terrible and that's the case and a generosity to them though perhaps unearned they are responsible for people's jobs they're responsible they have they have real responsibilities so i think that they think about that right

I think they think, and maybe they'll be wrong about this, that if in fact there's sort of a red line moment, and the question is what is that red line moment, that there's gonna be some button that they're gonna push

that they would push the button if this sort of red line moment happens.

Now, there's obviously a lot of people, I imagine, who are listening to us now saying, hasn't the red line moment already happened?

Or if you think the red line moment is coming, don't you need to get in front of it before you ever get there?

Because by the time you get to that line, you won't even have an opportunity to touch the button because you'll be so far away from it because somehow you'll be in this sort of terrible place.

I don't know the answer.

And I think this is what everybody in the business community who does have these worries is grappling with.

I think they're sitting there saying, I know there's a red line at some point.