Andrew Ross Sorkin

But you'll look at the valuations of some of these companies right now and the way they're getting financed and all the debt and leverage in the system.

And you'll say, this doesn't make sense.

Look at companies that don't have enough money, are not making any money.

They're making no money today.

They're losing money.

And yet they're making massive commitments to buy data centers, to buy all sorts of things that they can't afford to buy on a hope and a prayer and a dream that this will be the future.

Some of them will be right and they will be the future and some of them will be Amazon.

But a lot won't be.

And we will look around and we will say, that was a mistake.

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I kid you not.

I kid you not.

The people who are involved in this at that time, like the main character.

Thank you for having me.

And I love your background there.

a true image of what was actually happening in October of 1929, crazily enough.

Okay, so here's what happened to me.