Andrew Ross Sorkin

Well, but so there's two things that happen, though.

There's the New Deal and then World War II.

I mean, so I think you have to sort of lump them in a way together in terms of the spending profile and why we were spending.

I don't know.

Maybe we do, but what does that look like?

And where are we going to get the money to spend it?

That's the real question.

So I agree with you and I agree with David on that.

Like, I think we have to cut spending in a big way, but this goes back to the more issue, which is everybody wants more.

So, but this is now, you're talking about like a political, it's almost a paradox or a challenge, which is how do you get the public to buy into the idea of less, right?

That is the fundamental question.

We all know that we have to spend less.

I agree with that.

And by the way, I feel blessed that I could probably afford it, but to take less.

But the question is, you know, if you don't have it, taking less is- Yeah, they'll say, yeah, rich ass, like you guys can say that.

Okay.

Can I just throw one other thing in this?

Because I'm so curious about it.

And I spent a lot of time thinking about Smoot-Hawley in terms of tariffs.

So