Andrew Ross Sorkin

You're trying to control this force that is very powerful.

Which is the question.

All of our industries virtually have been in one way or another funded by this stock market.

And so everything we have that is now an asset of ours is somehow you can pretty much trace it back to this system, hate it or love it.

It is how we have done what we've done.

And this will come up in the book review I read.

I'll say it's terrible.

I mean, that aspect's terrible.

There's been a lot of Michael Lewis parallels between you guys as we've been sitting here, even the going to London part and getting into finance in London.

There's a lot of stuff they're writing.

He's like a hero of mine.

He is like a historic figure.

He is so charismatic and brilliant and casual about it all.

I'm totally enamored.

So real.

But he's so fucking playful along the way.

It's like our favorite kind of performers, the ones that make it look effortless.

The best.

Yes.

But all of his recent work on his podcast about this insane gambling addiction that a very significant portion of the young men in the country have.