Andrew Ross Sorkin

Listen to Dealbook Summit wherever you get your podcasts.

This is Andrew Ross Sorkin, the founder of Dealbook.

Every year, I interview some of the world's most influential leaders across politics, culture, and business at the Dealbook Summit, a live event in New York City.

On this year's podcast, you'll hear my unfiltered conversations with Gavin Newsom, the CEO of Palantir and Anthropic, and Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk.

Listen to Dealbook Summit wherever you get your podcasts.

I was going to call it Starkweather, but now I'm thinking Nebraska.

Uh, pretty good.

Pretty good.

Actually, I was wondering... Uh-huh.

Once upon a time, you're just so fine.

So look, in the 1920s – and I don't know if people appreciated this.

This was, I would even argue, the first time that people really were playing the market, like that the ordinary person was doing this because it was the first time that –

Frankly, the banks – I don't want to say the banks sucked them in, but the banks were basically lending people extraordinary amounts of money to go and make your bet.

And brokerages are appearing on the corners of streets like Starbucks, and you could just go walk in and do this.

And so –

You have this period of time where everybody's watching the market go up and they're all thinking, you know, if so-and-so is making all this money, I should be making the money too.

It's all this sort of psychology of I don't want to lose out.

The train's leaving the station.

I got to get on the train.

And yet the big Cassandra in the room was a guy named Carter Glass.