Andrew Sage

Yeah, yeah.

Because he was like, why don't you want to be able to waive your right to wear union memorabilia on the floor?

And we said, we want to be able to show pride that we're unionized and we want to be able to have more freedom for expression.

uh-huh because it's despotic to be able to have that level of control over what somebody does yeah and then he said you know well i uh don't wear my sexuality on my shirt and then realized that it was maybe inappropriate to say that so then he talked about how he doesn't wear his daughters on his shirt um which is a more convoluted point yeah well because he's proud of his kids i guess

what are we doing here?

I just, come on.

We gotta have better arguments than this.

Like,

Yeah, if you want to hear bad arguments, you should sit down on the bargaining session where their lawyer goes on kind of incomprehensible tirades about how the free market in the aggregate will make sure that the best person will get promoted over time or that the company will become more profitable or run with the most efficiency as an enterprise because anything else would be illogical because they wouldn't produce more profit.

But what does that have to do with labor?

Yeah, exactly.

Okay, so what I know who's a lawyer once told me that like, this is not like a leftist.

This is just like, she's just like a corporate lawyer once told me that the actual secret basis that doesn't exist of all corporate law is that there is actually nothing in the law that says a company has to make more money.

Or that they even have the right to make money?

That doesn't exist.

That's not a thing.

You don't actually have a legal right to make more money.

You simply don't.

That's not how this works.

The thing it reminds me of is the anthropologist David Graeber wrote about... I think he might have been quoting someone else, but I can't remember who he was quoting.