Andrew Sage

Both of these agencies are relatively aligned with what I'll call Donald Trump's agenda.

But Border Patrol particularly has made a name for itself.

Like Bovino himself and other Border Patrol chiefs were there was a time when it looked like they were going to force Bovino to retire.

And that time was 2023.

Right.

A briefing against the Biden administration, right?

Bovino has been kind of particularly emblematic of this new border patrol approach.

And it is particularly BP that has been aligned just with a lot of things that, you know, they had issues getting people vaccinated, right?

Like with this whole kind of political social milieu that is representative of the modern right movement.

We see with ICE agents, like some of these people, I'm not going to say they joined like looking to help, you know, make the world a happy place, but like they are reasonable civil servants, right?

Like I've talked to plenty of migrants who have gone to there and you'll hear from some of them in a scripted series next month.

gone to their eyes, checked in, said, that was fine, that person was professional, that they seemed genuinely concerned for things I'm facing, and I was not unduly harassed, made to feel uncomfortable, etc., etc.

Now, the Border Patrol agents are particularly brutal.

I have not heard that saying, that was a reasonable professional.

Yeah.

about Border Patrol agents from migrants.

Yeah.

Border Patrol also has a pretty high churn, right?

So they have a lot of people who have joined since, let's say, the first Trump admin.

Yeah.