Andrew Sage

But that's also really beautiful to think about from a more abstract sense.

yeah well also just companies love fucking with negotiations it's awful i how okay i i should just start asking everyone who does negotiations about this but on average how late are the managers to show up to meetings uh i would say that actually both sides are equally late um well to the negotiations at least uh uh

Just because getting around the city is so difficult.

Oh, so that's like a transit thing, not like a... No, no, we're not deliberately showing up late, as far as I know.

Yeah, you're just in traffic.

But shouldn't they already just be there?

Oh, yeah, well, because this is something that's actually been a delay tactic for them, is...

They insist that we need to split the cost equally of a bargaining space.

What?

What?

And again, we're independent, so they know that we can't on a regular basis commit to that.

So if you want to donate to our unions, that way we can pay to sit down in front of these people.

That's completely... Yeah.

Having to have the union pay... I've never heard of that before.

That's completely deranged.

That's... What?

And we've even waived our right to meet in a neutral space.

Uh-huh.

So we've asked if they would be willing to meet in the office of their legal representation or if they'd be willing to meet in the office of our legal representation.

And they've said no to both because supposedly, despite being the second largest union avoidance firm in the world, they've said that their office doesn't have adequate space to hold us.