Andrew Sage

The American media was still very, and continues to be very prominent in terms of what Caribbean people consume.

Because we are English-speaking, the Americans are English-speaking, and they have far more resources, so their media comes to us, and a lot of the narratives that Caribbean people get come in a decent part from American narratives.

So these Cold War era narratives about communism as a scare word was something that had yet to be addressed through actual demonstration of what communism could actually be for people.

You know, people weren't won over on communism yet.

It was still unfamiliar.

And in this time, you really needed people who were open, who were accommodating, who were showing people what it meant in practice, who were, you know, sort of disarming these notions that could serve as obstacles towards people's buy-in into the struggle.

I'm saying this as a non-Marxist Leninist.

I'm putting myself in those shoes if I'm trying to get people invested in this, convinced of this.

That sort of secrecy, it doesn't push things in a positive trajectory.

Yeah.

It's easy for the population to perceive that you've replaced one elite with another elite, right?

Especially in post-colonial movements when we do this.

Exactly.

It's a transparent one for one, you know?

Yeah.

I mean, not to say that people didn't see the differences.

No, yes, correct.

They weren't aware of the nuances.

They could tell the difference between an Eric Gehry and a Maurice Bichot.

Mm-hmm.