Andrew Schulz

Because they say, well, oh, and you know what's really interesting is, well, they say how Atlantis was like a circular sort of island or whatever.

Well, Santorini, even before it erupted, was a circular island.

Like, it was a circular island with water in the middle.

You can look up the way, like, it's geological.

geologic or geographic formation but it was a circular island but there's all kinds of different discrepancies right like uh where it says that atlantis was beyond the pillars of hercules well this is supposed to be the pillar of hercules the straight of gibraltar it's supposed to be out here and the geology that they describe there isn't the same as what it would be on crete and then they say that atlantis had elephants or whatever now one of the things that's really interesting is that there is a miniature african elephant that used to exist on on crete

A pygmy elephant or something like that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now, I maybe didn't live on Crete at the same time as the Minoans, but there were bones of these many elephants found down inside the caves that definitely the Minoans would have known about.

So there's all these little clues that, like,

It's the Athenians having this really fuzzy memory of the ancient past of the Greek world.

And he's like explaining it in such a way where Athenians will listen to him and what he's saying, right?

But there are kernels of truth in there.

And I think that it's...

at least the city of Heliki and the Minoan civilization falling apart, and maybe it's other things.

But I think that it's Plato drawing on different things that he was aware of growing up and telling this story that is particularly relevant to the Athenians.

The Athenians at this point have now become the new Minoans.

They rule...

They rule the seas.

They rule all the trade routes.

They're just like the Minoans.