Andrew Schulz

essentially spoiled itself and it lost all of the original foundations of what had made it great, which allowed Athens to conquer the city and then eventually the gods destroyed it.

It's about greed, yeah.

And so he is telling... The reason that Plato is telling that story is to be a reminder to the Athenian people who you should strive to be, right?

Now...

people have, people sort of, most people sort of ignore why Plato is telling this story, and then they just focus on Atlantis.

And so that has led us on this huge rabbit hole hunt.

Now, here's the thing is, some people, just because they're so caught up in the story of Atlantis, they sort of take Plato as like some kind of biblical figure, right?

Where you have to hang on every word and every precise description of what he's saying about this place or the story that he is relaying, right?

But in reality, no classical Greek author would ever do that because Greeks are notoriously the worst historians in the entire ancient world because there are no old Greeks.

The Greeks lost their memory.

The Egyptians know that the Greeks don't know anything about their ancient past.

So whenever the Greeks in classical periods are writing down about their past, they never are.

That's why there's so much Greek mythology.

So they're always making up some kind of story.

That's what you want.

And that's why we love them.

And so even by 450 BC, where all that power is kind of culminating and they're really coming together, they're really writing a lot, they have modern historians like Thucydides that's writing down the Peloponnesian War.

And he tells it in a, like as honest as he can be,

The best historian of his contemporary time, and he was a good historian of his contemporary time.

But it was really difficult for the Greeks to reach back in time because it was such a hazy, like they don't really understand their distant past.