Andrew Sullivan

I don't think most people are there in America.

I think most of us are still relatively reasonable folks.

We don't want to insult everyone we meet.

But if the president particularly

sends a signal that it's more important to malign, smear, insult, denigrate, rather than engage, criticize, argue, debate, deliberate, then our whole system begins to seize up.

Well, there were some elements in late Obama that I think the left began to get out of hand and give

give oxygen to a populism that has some completely genuine and legitimate complaints about our political system.

So, for example, I would have been worried about, for example, the use of Title IX at the end of Obama where he did the fiat about boys and girls being unable to be distinguished in every public high school.

That was outrageous.

But I think primarily I persuade Hillary Clinton not to run for office.

I think that'd be the main thing to do, that she was finished, she'd already run, she'd lost once, she'd been in the White House for eight years, there was no reason

for the Democratic Party to put her up there as the candidate.

And she had weaknesses that were so easily exploited by Trump.

I think she was almost his perfect foil.

And so I wish the Democrats had figured that out.

I mean, if they had run Biden in 2016, I think Biden would have won.

It was her arrogance, her sense of entitlement.

I don't think it has, Mark.

I mean, I wish it had.

My concern with it is not even pragmatic or political.