Andrew Sullivan

For me, the key moment in checking him the second time around were the primaries.

And the lawfare campaign, as you point out,

rescued him in the primaries.

It was the idiotic Bragg indictment that was timed perfectly to get him a bump in the early primaries.

I wanted DeSantis to do better because I wanted a non-Trump alternative that would represent some of the things that Trump could.

But

The other thing to be said, Mark, is he is a world historical genius at demagoguery.

He has extraordinary talents.

And he has an extraordinary will.

I mean, honestly, I'm in awe that you would end up as where he was after January 6th, having basically been thrown to the side rightly by almost everyone.

to come back from that and to win another victory,

I mean, I know it's very rare that you see that kind of raw politics.

Yeah.

Trump would have gone to jail.

I mean, that's the thing.

I mean, he was fighting party.

Unlike Clinton, he was fighting to protect his very being.

So there's a certain elemental power in that.

But yes, I think the ego and the will to power is personally extraordinary in the matter.

I saw it from the very get-go.