Andrew Voss

A bit more like me in some ways is that we delve into the mind as much as we can and try and help and support because, you know, that was the way that we could get a result from our team.

And there is absolutely no doubt, Gerard, I can guarantee you that the connection that gets strong in those moments between

between the coach and the team is the only way you can bring it really to the battle together, you know, because coach sits in the ivory tower.

He sits up in the coach's box.

He's not out on the grass, but I've got to get these boys to realise that this is how important this game is to us.

And I love the storytelling.

I mean, I'm just, I'm,

I live in that world a little bit with the team that I coached in the past.

So I think it's a weapon that a coach can use.

It's not every coach's choice, but it's a choice that some coaches will go into.

And Bevo, to me, strikes me as someone who would reach into that bag quite often too.

Yeah, there is.

And there's parts of the journeys, you know, and you hear different stories over the time.

And, you know, whether the 1500s have got any relevance to the 21st, I'm not sure, Gerard.

But, you know, the art of coaching is it's mindset, setting up the mind to wanting to perform at all costs for the ultimate cause.

And in our game, that's just victory.

It's not war.

It's not anything like that.

And people who will sit there in judgment and go, oh, well, it's nothing like that.

Well, it's...