Andrew Warner

But first I got to talk about the Leadpages conference.

Leadpages is doing a conference for people who are just into conversion.

Are you going to be at it?

It's called Conversion 2016.

Why not?

Why are you so adamant?

They're paying to be on stage?

I see.

I don't think that that's true for lead pages because of the people who I think are over there.

And frankly, I think for lead pages, they're doing this conference just to make themselves the leaders in conversion.

I agree.

I love the way that they even will upsell me to an annual package as I keep using their software.

Right.

So the thing that I like about this conference, I say no to almost every conference.

I have no interest.

I reach with like five seconds on Mixergy more people than I'm going to reach in an actual conference.

But the reason that I said yes to them is because everybody who's going to be on stage at that conference and many of the people are going to be in the audience think exactly like that.

where they think, how do I increase my up sales?

How do I come up with a new clever way to get people who are going to come in for monthly to go for annual subscription?

All that kind of stuff.