Andrew Warner

You had more than 2 million people.

What about this?

When you put together a conference and on your webpage for the conference, you said Carl Icahn was going to be there.

J.K.

Rowling was going to be there.

And a whole bunch of other people were going to be there speaking at the conference.

I see.

You just want to get some committed orders and then you'll put the conference together.

Do you see how some people might see it as a lie?

No.

Because you're misleading, intentionally misleading?

Carl Icahn, you have confidence, is going to come speak at the conference.

I feel like Jason Calacanis kind of took this attitude where he was just going to say outrageous things.

No one was going to call him out on it.

And if they did, then it would create controversy, which would get him more attention.

He said everything he did was great.

He would talk about, like, Marissa Meyer being a great product person.

He'd go, like, I'm a great product person.

He would just keep complimenting himself until...

Uber hit and he was an early investor in Uber through a scout deal that he had with Sequoia.