Andrew Warner

And I feel like that's a persuasion job for me.

But it does take a ton of time, a ton of time to persuade people to say it's OK.

And they get those questions ahead of time.

I hate places where the guest gets all the questions ahead of time.

But I will say this, before this interview started, I told you, I don't want to sandbag you.

I've talked to a few people.

Can I tell, do you want me to tell you about it before I start recording the interview?

And you said, no, I'd rather be surprised.

Don't be afraid.

You can't, you can't shock me.

If this doesn't get as many listeners as the first one or as many comments, I'll point it out.

And yeah, I get that.

I get that.

So even if I say, hey, Nathan failed, you can come back and say, I did not fail.

I produced the best interview for Andrew possible.

The fact that Andrew doesn't know how to promote anymore means that Andrew thinks he's too big to promote this.

And it's on Andrew.

That is a classic Nathan Latka circa 2016 phrase right there.

It's the greatest blab, the biggest blab of all time.

And because they didn't promote it, they went down.