Andrew Warner

I really like following you on Facebook.

I know you're on Snapchat and all these other platforms too, but Facebook for me has been my favorite, partially because of the live videos that you put out.

If anyone wants to, and actually many people who are listening are already subscribers of your podcast, partially because we're on your podcast feed and also because people have been following you from Mixergy to your podcast.

But if they're not, they should just go to whatever podcast app they like and go subscribe to the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast.

And of course, if they're listening to me and they want to check out more Mixergy, they should look for Mixergy.

It's a little bit harder to spell Mixergy than the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast.

Ah, interesting.

I didn't even think to do that.

So what do you you actually were listening to Mixergy back when you were building your company, kind of like I said in the intro, many people do.

What did you get out of listening to Mixergy all those years?

You know what?

I used to do that.

And I find that entrepreneurs tend to be stubborn that way.

That if they know you're teeing something up like that, they will battle against it sometimes just to battle against it.

I'll give you a great example.

David Hanmeyer Hansen, the co-founder of Basecamp and he's the creator of Ruby on Rails, I think.

I said something like, what does ambition mean to you?

And just to be provocative, he knew that I started the interview by saying, this is home of the ambitious upstart.

He said, I don't believe in ambition.

And I could see like a smile on his face almost as he was doing it.