Andrew Weissmann

And as you heard in that clip, I mean, Carolyn Levitt essentially doesn't even try to offer any kind of halfway plausible alternate explanation other than the one that we all know, is the case, which is that he just wants to make a bunch of money and this is an easy way to do it. He thinks it's a deal. He thinks it's a good deal for him.

And he thinks the conflict of interest stuff is kind of pointless and for squares and for nerds to follow those rules. But not only does she, I mean, she says, obviously we're abiding by all conflict of interest rules and regulations and stuff.

And he thinks the conflict of interest stuff is kind of pointless and for squares and for nerds to follow those rules. But not only does she, I mean, she says, obviously we're abiding by all conflict of interest rules and regulations and stuff.

And he thinks the conflict of interest stuff is kind of pointless and for squares and for nerds to follow those rules. But not only does she, I mean, she says, obviously we're abiding by all conflict of interest rules and regulations and stuff.

And I resent the very notion that anybody would suggest any of this is unethical, but there's no alternate explanation given for why he would possibly be interested in doing this because we all know.

And I resent the very notion that anybody would suggest any of this is unethical, but there's no alternate explanation given for why he would possibly be interested in doing this because we all know.

And I resent the very notion that anybody would suggest any of this is unethical, but there's no alternate explanation given for why he would possibly be interested in doing this because we all know.

I'm not totally sure that the White House is involved, right? The wording is a little opaque on the website. They get to visit the White House, though. Is that in there? My reading of it, maybe I should bone up on this. I had thought that what was on offer was like there's this dinner and there's this reception at the club, at Trump's golf course in D.C., and that Trump would be present for that.

I'm not totally sure that the White House is involved, right? The wording is a little opaque on the website. They get to visit the White House, though. Is that in there? My reading of it, maybe I should bone up on this. I had thought that what was on offer was like there's this dinner and there's this reception at the club, at Trump's golf course in D.C., and that Trump would be present for that.

I'm not totally sure that the White House is involved, right? The wording is a little opaque on the website. They get to visit the White House, though. Is that in there? My reading of it, maybe I should bone up on this. I had thought that what was on offer was like there's this dinner and there's this reception at the club, at Trump's golf course in D.C., and that Trump would be present for that.

And then there's this kind of oblique reference to a VIP tour for like the creme de la creme, for like the top of the top of the top. But it's not super clear from the wording on the website what the tour is of. I don't know whether it's been externally reported that that's the White House or what. But but that's I mean, either way, the point is not like, oh, they get to see the Lincoln bedroom.

And then there's this kind of oblique reference to a VIP tour for like the creme de la creme, for like the top of the top of the top. But it's not super clear from the wording on the website what the tour is of. I don't know whether it's been externally reported that that's the White House or what. But but that's I mean, either way, the point is not like, oh, they get to see the Lincoln bedroom.

And then there's this kind of oblique reference to a VIP tour for like the creme de la creme, for like the top of the top of the top. But it's not super clear from the wording on the website what the tour is of. I don't know whether it's been externally reported that that's the White House or what. But but that's I mean, either way, the point is not like, oh, they get to see the Lincoln bedroom.

Right. The point is they get access to Donald Trump. The point is that they get they get. personal proximity to this guy who has this big sign around his neck that says, buy me. And they get to pitch him on stuff, presumably. I mean, we don't know exactly what that dinner is going to look like.

Right. The point is they get access to Donald Trump. The point is that they get they get. personal proximity to this guy who has this big sign around his neck that says, buy me. And they get to pitch him on stuff, presumably. I mean, we don't know exactly what that dinner is going to look like.

Right. The point is they get access to Donald Trump. The point is that they get they get. personal proximity to this guy who has this big sign around his neck that says, buy me. And they get to pitch him on stuff, presumably. I mean, we don't know exactly what that dinner is going to look like.

It could be that he's kind of scamming all of these people and there's not going to be that much access on offer. But we do know that at least some people are thinking of it in those terms, are buying the coin with the express hope that they'll be able to influence the president and with good reason because they're putting money in his pocket.

It could be that he's kind of scamming all of these people and there's not going to be that much access on offer. But we do know that at least some people are thinking of it in those terms, are buying the coin with the express hope that they'll be able to influence the president and with good reason because they're putting money in his pocket.

It could be that he's kind of scamming all of these people and there's not going to be that much access on offer. But we do know that at least some people are thinking of it in those terms, are buying the coin with the express hope that they'll be able to influence the president and with good reason because they're putting money in his pocket.

I think the point that you make is a good and important one, which is that even in the first term, when things were wildly less insane than they are today, ethics experts still were having conniptions constantly about all of the ways in which Donald Trump was obviously self-dealing because he had not divested from his properties.