Andrew Williams

So evidence of these creatures does exist in other states like Western Australia and New South Wales, but this is the first time that they've been identified in Victoria.

That places them about 1,000 kilometres from where they previously were known to sort of roam around.

Yeah, I read a lot of articles about this.

It's the only thing that feels more complex than what's going on in the Middle East.

And the articles that I read seem to indicate that no matter the decision, you can expect an appeal.

So it's been going on for a while and it'll probably keep going on for a while after this, no matter what.

So we'll see what happens there.

We will also find out the winner of the 2026 Gallipoli Art Prize, which is awarded to an artist who best depicts the spirit of the Gallipoli campaign in World War I. We'll pop in a link to a gallery of the finalists in the episode notes today.

I've had a look.

It's a really interesting collection of artwork.

Good one.

And I'm Andrew Williams.

Yep, we're talking about the late 1930s and early 1940s here.

But the problems actually go back even further than that to the early 1930s.

The whole motoring industry was still very much in development

At this point, cars and planes had only been around a couple of decades.

And in the 30s, there was a movement to think about keeping some long-term reserves of petrol in place in case of a big global disaster like World War I, but it never happened.

And that became a real problem when World War II began in 1939.

Yeah, but it was facing a much longer crisis to deal with.

World War II, of course, went for six years and Australia had nothing like enough petrol to last it that long.