Andrew Wilson

We're 15 minutes in, and we are in the land of reality.

You finally called up.

Can you tell me how we can get to the secular marriage?

I mean, I've given you a chance.

You're dragging your feet.

So, again, there's never been any point to secular marriage ever.

Now, listen, marriage is for child creation.

It would be great for child communities and all of these things.

And now, listen, by the time the—

religious aspects got in the marriage.

They were chopping people heads off and burning Bibles.

So listen, I know we want to take it back to the past and act like the past was better.

But there's always a negative part of the past.

If you go back and you look at the English, this has all been there.

People were getting their heads chopped off.

The Crusaders were doing their things across countries, and they were spreading Christianity through threats and violence.

Now, that's what you're trying to uplift.

That's what you're trying to uphold.

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about.

You wouldn't know what I'm talking about.