Andrew Wilson

This is not even early American history.

That's in your grandfather's lifetime, basically.

And by the way, that was the case for black marriages as well.

Very strong institutions.

But all of those institutions were that way because they followed that whole sky daddy thing.

Correct.

They were like, oh, that sky daddy's going to smite us if we don't.

And so what you do here is you're giving the classic progressive argument, which is, well, you know, guys, it is true that it's a great institution and it is true.

It's the best place in the world to have children for the continuation of the species.

And also.

It's fantastic for men's health.

It's fantastic for their mental health.

It's great for them in almost every way.

But that divorce thing is real bad.

And I counter.

You're right.

That divorce thing is real bad.

We have now a center of agreement.

But now we're going back to the marriage in the West thing, which is that whole great institution problem.

Well, if we agree that what made it good, which you just did, is, hey, that Sky Daddy guy.