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And they dislodged an admin caucus that had been in power and, like, doing similar shit to this for, like, decades and decades and decades.

And so it is possible for, you know, reform caucuses inside the union to organize and drive the leadership out.

But it's really hard.

And the moment you start doing that, like every single person who's any way affiliated with you will get targeted for retaliation by the union.

And yes, that's what has happened with J.C.

Tretter.

Again, Pablo Torre, he released an interview two weeks ago with, you know, a longtime security officer who was basically one of the people who was like, hey,

Yeah.

What's going on here with this J.C.

Treader and Lloyd Howell stuff?

And they fired him for that.

Like, the union fired the security guy who'd been working, like, he'd been working there since, like, Dean Upshaw was working there.

So he's part of the old guard that is there for, like, the material, like, improvement of players' lives, like, as far as they can take it without, you know, dealing with the real bounds of, like, we got to kind of get this done before the season or our worker base is going to be harmed.

Like, those guys don't really work there anymore.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Someone like Dominic Foxworth, he's on TV now, you know, and I know he cares a lot about this, but he's off doing different things.

And I think another thing that that's tough when you look back at like, OK, who is playing football?

These are ultimately young men who like they entered this union without any knowledge of like how unions work.

Like what are the finances behind any of this?