Andrew

But the roots of it.

Yeah.

they were guys trying to get rights for trying to get paid for the amount of time that they put into this job.

One of the, the base like complaints is when the league was smaller and you had like kind of other leagues, you know, that are defunct now or were absorbed by the AFC or the NFC before it all emerged, the NFL, one of the basis is was the NFL owners would ban you.

If you played in another league, like if you spent any time playing another league, they would ban you for five years, man.

That's your whole career.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

And I don't know if this made the show or if we were talking about it before the show, but one of the things that got the NFLPA organized in the 50s was guys were doing training camp and preseason games for free.

They weren't getting paid for it.

But these are just regular men who are just like, fuck it, I'm tired of this.

And sadly, it's been co-opted into something that does not represent what it was before.

But, you know, this stuff is started by regular people who are saying, fuck it, I'm tired of this.

We got to make a change.

Yeah.

And I think on that note, where can people find your work?

Yeah, you can find me on Blue Sky or Verts.

You can find me on Yahoo Sports, Football 301 Podcast.

I'm trying to be found a little bit less these days.