André Duqum

And they've now lived for decades of their life building evidence to support that belief about themselves.

And I've heard you've been quoted saying anything that's overlearned doesn't go away overnight, you know?

And so for these patterns that are deeply ingrained and embedded as like we fundamentally believe that's who we are, how does one...

go from just the awareness of what the pattern is to true transformation?

And what have you seen the progression to truly empower people to make that change?

When you essentially are playing out that drama later out in life and you find the, you know, the person that is the archetypal representation of your mother and a partner, for example, is that what you would say?

Yeah.

And so you referred to how like how important and powerful the sheer information and knowledge of what's going on inside can be.

And then do you think it's like maintaining it comes down to really in practice day to day when these triggers come up?

Is it just maintaining an awareness of those drives and those motivating factors?

And how does one go from awareness to like true integration and transformation in that stage?

Is there anything else you want to you want to add there?

I find it interesting that a lot of people who have gone through very hard, challenging circumstances in their life at some point tend to develop a level of gratitude for that circumstance and that event.

For some reason, beautiful people seem to have just gone through hard things.

It shapes you, it forms you.

In some way, it's the resistance necessary for you to grow those virtuous aspects of self.

Have you seen that to be the case in your life and with the people you work with?

Is there a predominant event in your life that you feel like did that for you?

A challenging circumstance that you felt like down the road you made you more humble, grew you more wiser?

How do you make sense of how that formed you?