Andy Halliday

And so, yeah, that's the fear.

But there are.

people who have skepticism about whether that will happen in any near-term way.

And people are still dependent on those systems of record.

And so it's very difficult to move off of them.

So people will continue to pay their subscription fees to those software services.

And for example, although there are open source spreadsheets and there's Google Sheets, which you can use pretty inexpensively, people still have preference for the

the particulars of the way excel works and so uh you know people will continue to buy office 365 uh for many years to come i think yeah oh gara said i had a salesperson reach out to me about software and i told them no thanks i'll just build it there you go i

Yeah, I would also comment quickly on Gareth's question about whether Gemini is good or not at coding.

He's saying, why isn't Gemini better at coding?

And my experience with Gemini, even back to 2.5 Pro, is that it's really, really excellent at coding and understanding code base and providing code and instruction to Claude.

So, you know, I haven't had the same experience you've had about coding,

Anti-gravity is well regarded out there and it's powered by Gemini 3.

So I hope that it's not true that Gemini is poor at coding.

I haven't run into that particular problem because again, I've been using Gemini as a coaching coder as opposed to a, you know, a code writer, but it's right in their process.

Carl, welcome.

Um,

Before Carl jumps into the Claude continuum, I just wanted to mention a quick little item of news here, which is that Perplexity launched a product called Model Counsel.

And it's taking advantage of Perplexity's access to multiple models.

So if you have a Perplexity subscription, you have multiple models available to you.