Andy Halliday

And I saw a little blurb this morning that only two of the original authors are still working for Frontier Labs.

All the rest of them have spread out and started their own companies or otherwise are working in different spaces at this point.

Okay, so Sakana is not like building bigger, you know, multi-trillion parameter AI models.

They're advancing AI technologies with new architectures.

And this is why Google's interested in them.

And specifically, Demis Hassabis,

of Google DeepMind was one of the commentators on this combination between Google and Sakana.

So yeah, we've always been noting Sakana as this out-of-the-box thinker that's doing things that you wouldn't expect.

Not following the pack, but rather really cutting through and doing some interesting things.

One of the things that they got a lot of attention for is called AI Scientist.

That's an automated research system that generated a paper that passed review from the major authorities on scientific paper publishing.

The first truly AI authored paper to do so.

And then just this last month, their ALE agent was the coding agent that was the first one to win the major optimization programming contest.

Optimization being one of the more difficult mathematical problems that you have with multiple variables.

And you can imagine like, hey, optimize this factory floor operation, and it's got a

comprehend and then optimize for every one of the different interactions and transactions.

That's the kind of contest that it won.

And why isn't somebody like Gemini winning that one?

Well, because Sakana has some secret sauce that Gemini is going to take advantage of.

And Sakana will take advantage of Gemini's large transformers now.