Andy Miller

And I think when you listen back, at about the 10-minute mark, you can hear Sir Stephen saying,

really begin to engage with the conversation.

Yeah, it was a really fantastic feeling to bring this particular book and author to Sir Stephen Fry and know within 10 minutes that we were doing okay.

So that's what I remember, nothing but good things.

I would just reiterate that if you're planning to read De Profundis by Oscar Wilde, I can recommend two specific ways of doing so.

The audiobook read by Simon Russell Beale is absolutely superb and, in my opinion...

One of my favourite audiobooks, one I actually listen to several times now just for the pleasure of listening to Simon Russell Beale bite into it.

And the other way is we, I think we recommend on this episode the edition of Wilde's Prison Writings edited by Colm Tobin.

I would say that again, if you have the opportunity to pick that up, that is the...

contextual material which really works soulfully with the original letter by Wilde.

So that was the past, Nicky.

But the future, tell me about the future.

Yeah, we haven't won the book before.

Yes, it's all boats.

So we beat on boats against the current, etc.

That was a really good conversation about Jerome K. Jerome's Three Men in a Boat.

I was lucky enough to be part of that.

So that's coming up when?

On May the 2nd?

And just to say, we don't choose the Booker Prize winners to discuss.