Andy O'Donoghue

Really light, by the way, I should say.

They're just two and a half grams.

And you get all of that HRV and temperature metrics, the dynamic recovery score, which people are starting to do.

And, you know, it follows your circadian rhythm.

It learns about you and helps you regulate stress.

So a nice option without a subscription.

I think you've got to be thinking about two years is probably the time.

I think most people, there are some stats about how long people use trackers and things like this for.

And if they make it easy without a subscription, I think people will leave them on longer.

So that will allow manufacturers to charge us a bit more at the beginning of the journey.

But if somebody's training for a marathon or they plan on getting a bit fitter, losing some weight, things like that, six to eight months, people report that they tend to wear these devices for.

But after two years, that's when you can think about upgrading, I think.

And yes, whoop 5.0, which is, you know, the gold standard for high performance athletes.

You see so many high performance athletes wearing these and it doesn't care about your steps.

This is about your cardiovascular load.

It does.

But the core data is, you know, it's designed to tell you when to push hard and when to take a rest day.

And you have, you know, the strain and recovery scores, the sleep coach.

And I don't know if you have noticed, but I love that charging.

You can do the on-risk charging.