Andy Rosen

I don't think it's karma based, but I might be wrong, but you have timeline.

Huh?

I've always, and this is like very ego human centric.

Yeah.

Thought that like, well, maybe like you're a plant first and then maybe you're a butterfly and then maybe you're a dog and then you're a human, but that's like very egocentric sort of, but that's like one way to look at a timeline.

But yeah, I don't know.

And do some of these NDEs, do people have bad experiences with it where they're like, oh, no?

No.

Oh, interesting.

I want to ask you, I don't know if it was last week or the week before, we were talking a little bit about the let them lady, the like kind of like influencers, right?

That like might be like sort of predatory.

And like we recorded that episode and then like-

Within 24 hours, you showed me an Instagram reel of this woman that I found so cringy and so unreliable.

And just like, who the fuck is this lady preaching her self-help life advice?

And it resonated so much with you.

But she is.

But it just struck me as like, you went on this rant

And then you were like hyped about this version, which was so crazy and cringe, but I'm like the exact same thing.

And like less credible even because it's just like a person.

Because...