Andy Stumpf

And I'm thinking 15th will probably be decent for me.

But I'm like, no.

I'm like, we're going to get up there.

We're going to get in the fight.

But our strategy is to stay in the back.

And while all these guys take each other out...

like the top 10 or so people will generally crash out.

So they start with a field of 40 or 42 and usually 25 finish in general.

Let's finish this.

Now let's take one step back and say to stay on the lead lap at any event with the best drivers in the world is difficult.

You have to, they are fighting, especially Daytona.

Yeah.

So Daytona, if you miss the draft, you're gone.

And everyone in the back of that field is trying to get as few cars on that lead draft as possible.

And it's,

The drafting is something that didn't fall into any motorcycle racing or any rally or anything I've ever done.

So I had a 400-page brief before the Daytona 500.

400?

400 pages on where you could slow down cars, where you could draft to slow down your whole row.

Because they're talking about, hey, we want to get our teammates up here.