Andy Stumpf

And we ended up going 1-2 in the U.S.

Championship and beat the world champion from Europe, which no one thought an American could do.

That's a totally different tangent.

But it was because of Scott Speed's F1 background and that...

He's like, I don't understand.

You know that you overshot the corner when you broke any further than here.

And when you were trying to make up time, you consistently broke later than that point.

I was like, yeah, because I'm trying to catch you.

He goes, but do you not understand that the fastest you can go around the corner, fastest you can make it into your apex is breaking here.

I'm like, but you're going faster.

He's like, I'm better.

And that's something that I couldn't grasp.

In dirt, you don't lose as much for being aggressive.

Oh, interesting.

So in pavement, there's a certain amount of grip level.

And as soon as you break that grip level, even if you don't crash, you're losing time.

If you're sliding, you're losing time.

So there is a certain point of your apex that you have to hit.

And you get the most time by making that down the next straight.

If you miss the apex by an inch, you're losing time because that corner on the exit is sharper.