Andy Stumpf

And he's like, look, you can only drive your car so fast.

You can carry a dirt bike.

On a dirt bike, you're the wedge.

You're the suspension.

You can't make up for the motor, but you can change so much stuff.

And the lines are changing.

So it's how you find that traction.

I could shift up a gear, if you have the guts to do it, and wheelie into a set of whoops and make up two seconds a lap on a Supercross track.

It's not recommended.

If you're making up two seconds on Eli Tomac,

you're probably gonna die here real soon, but like, or not die, sorry, lack of a better word, but.

You might, but you're probably gonna be.

But you can still do it.

If you look at Carmichael, Stewart, the guys that they just start over jumping jumps.

They're like, I'll get a half second by just regardless of what my body does.

I'm just going to jump this to flat and I'm going to be strong enough to take it.

And that changed the sport and all of that stuff.

But you look at cars and they said, look, you have to talk to your crew chief.

So you drive.

That's what Scott was like.