Angelina Chapin

And then a woman named Daniela Pearson, who runs this media startup called The Newsette, which is actually quite successful.

It's sort of a girl bossy newsletter before the Substack era.

So Daniela asks Mandy...

to do an interview about mental health and they have a conversation and they keep in touch and daniella ends up then doing a mother-daughter interview with both selena and mandy and then the story goes that selena's always wanted to do something that's like

just some sort of empire that would be a one-stop shop to deal with any mental health issue.

I think a better description comes from Daniella where she's sort of like, we want to make psychology today and WebMD sexy.

If you're just a new user to Wondermind or you look at what it was like at the time, it looks like BuzzFeed mental health content sort of lists 10 ways to deal with anxiety.

It's really nothing groundbreaking.

It doesn't really make sense other than the fact that Selene is attached, that it would get any sort of investment.

It's really...

Yeah, I think Wonder Mind, everyone who worked there sort of felt like it was the ugly stepchild compared to Rare Beauty, and that just Rare Beauty got everything, and Wonder Mind was a complete afterthought, if it was a thought at all.

I think it's probably a few things.

From Selena's perspective, and this is really from what employees have told me,

They think that she just wanted to give her mom something to do.

You know, she does speak about mental health.

That's not a lie.

But I think it's just like, okay, well, we need to install mommy somewhere.

So she has something to do.

Potentially in the most ungenerous reading so that she stays out of my life and just is occupied.

Let's get her a desk.