Angie Katsanevas

That's why you've got to find your friends and stay loyal to them. Like to me, I think it took me a minute to really break out because I wanted to be a good friend and I wanted to be loyal and I didn't want to cross lines. But I think like you called me a slow burn.

It's better to establish, sit back and observe people, understand people and how they work, establish real friendships and real roots. And then you can... be yourself more because you have more understanding of the group. If you come in and kind of blow everyone up and start talking about everyone to everyone that that's going to blow up on you.

And I didn't know that I just did organically what I felt and being a good friend and being integral and like wanting to, I wanted to stay on the show forever. as my real self, as a good person, you know, and not like blow people up or ruin lives. That's why I'd rather talk about high body count than be like digging in DMs and trying to ruin people's marriages or businesses. Like that's not fun.

You know, I want to bring the fun to the show. And how did I get onto me? I mean, we were talking about Bronwyn. How did I turn this on to me?

Well, thanks for saying that because I love that you guys are my fans, stans, because that made me feel like, oh my God, I am a good housewife. When I heard you guys like it.

Are you? Oh, my. Are you serious?

I am winning. Oh, my God.

I can die now. Thank you. Wow. Okay. Well, to answer that, in the moment when I'm fighting with Meredith, my blood is boiling. I'm in fight or flight. I mean, it is so intense for me. And when you watch that back, like when I got kicked out of the bat mitzvah, for example, or when she yelled, you can leave. I mean, I was like...

It doesn't translate on camera what I'm feeling inside because, you know, she had me in tears and look, I know that I was inappropriate with my tits hanging out and saying the D word and saying the F word of her bat mitzvah, but like, um, her I mean, but I do have to go back to like, you can leave when she told me to leave. I'm like, I'm not leaving. I deserve to be at this table.

I deserve to be on this show and I deserve to be with this group. And I stood down and some of the girls told me no one's really ever stood up to Meredith like that. And that's why she can't stand you. And it was hard for me to do that because she's an OG. And while it's my city.

in her mind it's her show it's my city and it's her show right now that's an interesting take on it so you believe you you believe that you are more salt lake than meredith marx i as she's not from me i born and raised in these streets i mean i mean for real i am so passionate you're a pillar of the community god damn pillar

But, you know, it's funny because when that happened, I mean, inside, I was just like shook and really deeply. And it felt like she was bullying me, trying to yell at me to leave this event. And I'm sure she had her reasons for saying that I'm not perfect. And then when she did it to me again at the Bob Mitzvah, I'm telling you, I'm in fight or flight. I'm like shaking inside. I'm furious.

I'm emotional. I feel like crying. But when I watch it back and when people like redo the scenes, like I let that partying cry for three days. It was so humiliating. It was so cruel. It was so demeaning. And to me, and I just felt like, are you really trying to do this to me again? Like,

like making like it felt like she was trying to make fun of me and then i i felt totally set up you guys and that was why i cried forever after that because i said when she said why are you even here that was like like you invited me here and you brought me here to humiliate me and what you just said is obvious that you want to humiliate me and now you're kicking me out and it was so hurtful because

I would never, I treated her like gold when she came to my home. I told my daughter to make eye contact, smile, welcome her in. I mean, I would never kick anyone out like that. It doesn't matter what the circumstances. So I couldn't relate, but watching it back, it doesn't feel as dark as it did in the moment.

And seeing like, like Ether Opal recreated with Barbie, seeing Andy last night on, seeing like these big time people.

Julianne Moore and like Anderson Cooper recreate it. Now it's like they are bringing light to this moment. And that's who I am. Like I am so funny in real life and I love to make people laugh. So to see this be recreated and bring laughter to people, it softens it for me. And you know what? She is a good sparring partner for me. She's a lawyer.

She went to law school to learn to argue, but I am a damn hairdresser, beauty school graduate with street smarts.

Don't count. That's what I say. It's like, girl, you're a lawyer. You went to school to learn how to argue. I learned in the streets. I learned in the streets of Salt Lake. And so I just had to cringe. That's right. Exactly. So I just had to laugh because I thought, I am a good sparring partner for this woman.

She may not want to admit it, but like I've kind of taken her out pretty good for being just a little old hairdresser. So look, I think there are some real feelings between us that are not good and we don't really like each other. So we have made for probably I've heard from, you know, some people that we are probably the best feud in Housewives history.