Anita Arnand

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1,099 appearances 7 recordings 2 series first heard Apr 2026 last heard 10 Jun

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Empire: World History · 361. Louis Theroux On The Settlers, The Manosphere, & Tribalism · 20 May 2026 podcast

And she says, well, she kind of doesn't accept that that's settler violence.

Now, if you can't get to somebody by showing them to their face something that we can all see, what does that do to your sense of fairness or journalism?

You've talked about the very strong leadership, but I really want to know whether in all of your travels and talking to the people who follow these people, whether you see a commonality in tribalism, if we can put it that way.

Is there something in the human condition that means people switch off their own questioning and follow people who say black is white and white is black?

Sure.

And that, I mean, that is also the Westboro Baptist Church.

You know, it's us in the church.

We're the ones that matter.

And, you know, everyone outside is potentially an enemy.

And actually, we don't care.

We don't think about them.

You know, we will do what we do because we care about our family.

Does that depress you about the human spirit that so many people are willing to switch off the part of themselves that thinks, you know what, this person who is standing either surveying a smoldering village or is protesting at a funeral of a dead serviceman, that they're willing to switch that off and follow?

What have you learned about the human condition that that can happen?

I mean, I've been sort of looking at your work over many years and I think what you do is really interesting.

And I think the space that you give people to speak and also the fact that you leave the spaces in to me is utterly fascinating.

And if you work as I do, I work for the BBC, but I work in news and you don't have room for the spaces.

It seems to me that you've been studying the same question for around 30 years now, which is how ordinary people end up sort of holding either extreme or fringe beliefs, whatever, and then acting on them.

And I wanted to bring in the thing that's blown up for you this year, Inside the Manosphere on Netflix.

And just again, if you are one of the two people who hasn't seen this now, this is all about men selling courses and lifestyle.

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