Anita Arnon

And that's because, you know, they're agricultural workers.

They're working on cacao.

They're working the fields.

They've got slaves.

It's also, therefore, much more multicolored.

I mean, to say there's tension at this point would be, I think, an exaggeration.

There is a system that has always existed, which is that the so-called peninsulares, or the people who are from Spain, hold the very highest offices, right?

So they are right at the top of the pyramid.

Yeah, exactly.

But underneath them, the actual levers of power are being put in the hands of Creoles, the Spanish who are born or brought up in South America.

This is an elite based on money because you can have a sale of offices at this time.

Much as we have a history of rotten boroughs in this country where if you were very, very rich you could buy yourself a political seat at the table, you had very rich people who were taking those very powerful civil service jobs for themselves.

Now, that is going to be a problem

when the Spanish try to change things because it will occur to these people who are doing the work day by day that, hang on a minute, we're doing the work day by day.

Why are we answering to some Spaniard or peninsular who's telling us what to do?

That's going to be in the next episode.

Yeah.

I mean, you know what?

He probably doesn't even question it until he goes to Spain and he sees the doofuses who are taking these top positions.

It's just the way it has always been.