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Anna Lembke

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Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

Really interesting.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

She came back four weeks later and she said, Dr. Lemke, you wouldn't believe it.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

And this is what's so funny.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

Patients will always say, you wouldn't believe it as if I'm going to be shocked.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

I said, tell me.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

She goes, well, first of all, stopping pot made me realize that I had been addicted to pot, something I really didn't realize before.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

And I said, well, how did you realize that?

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

And she said, well, first of all, the first week I was vomiting violently.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

So remember that withdrawal is the opposite, both psychologically and physiologically, from whatever the drug was doing for us.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

And we know that cannabis can be an anti-emetic or an anti-nausea kind of effect.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

So when she stopped using it, she started vomiting.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

And that was the signal to her that her body had been changed by her chronic heavy use.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

More even in her case than the temporarily increased anxiety and insomnia, which I had warned her about.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

And then she said, and you wouldn't believe it, but I feel so much better now after four weeks of stopping than I have in a really long time.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

I feel less anxious.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

less depressed i'm more able to enjoy things i i can breathe better you know i feel physically better i'm sleeping better and this happens again and again and again we see this so often in clinical care and people are so surprised because they when we're in it we don't see the harm right all we know is that oh god smoking this joint makes me feel better after a long hard day we can't see the ways in which the cumulative effects actually are making us feel worse

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

Yeah, so this is a famous study by Brown and Shuckett where they took a group of adult men who met clinical criteria for alcoholism and also met clinical criteria for major depressive episodes.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

They put them in the hospital for four weeks, during which time they had no access to alcohol.

Hidden Brain
The Path to Enough

You know, they made sure they didn't have life threatening withdrawal.