Anna Scott

That's right. So there were some interesting things happening in Europe. And you're actually seeing at this time, the power effectively shifts from Southern Europe to Northern Europe. Amsterdam was a really key center in terms of trade and expansion. Because this is the period when colonialism begins. The colonies are being established in different places.

And it's those northern cities that start to lead the way in that. And so the power and the wealth that had been centered in the Catholic South is starting to shift. And that's all happening at this time.

And it's those northern cities that start to lead the way in that. And so the power and the wealth that had been centered in the Catholic South is starting to shift. And that's all happening at this time.

And it's those northern cities that start to lead the way in that. And so the power and the wealth that had been centered in the Catholic South is starting to shift. And that's all happening at this time.

Yes, that's right. I think the pilgrims weren't as savvy in terms of the economics of things, perhaps, as some others during that period and in the years that followed. They were duped quite often, you know, in terms of their financial dealings.

Yes, that's right. I think the pilgrims weren't as savvy in terms of the economics of things, perhaps, as some others during that period and in the years that followed. They were duped quite often, you know, in terms of their financial dealings.

Yes, that's right. I think the pilgrims weren't as savvy in terms of the economics of things, perhaps, as some others during that period and in the years that followed. They were duped quite often, you know, in terms of their financial dealings.

And although the finance was there for colonisation and those voyages to explore and establish themselves in other places, the Dutch did invite the pilgrims to do that with them. But at the end of the day, they went to London to finance what they did and they didn't do it in partnership with the Dutch.

And although the finance was there for colonisation and those voyages to explore and establish themselves in other places, the Dutch did invite the pilgrims to do that with them. But at the end of the day, they went to London to finance what they did and they didn't do it in partnership with the Dutch.

And although the finance was there for colonisation and those voyages to explore and establish themselves in other places, the Dutch did invite the pilgrims to do that with them. But at the end of the day, they went to London to finance what they did and they didn't do it in partnership with the Dutch.

Yeah. And as you say, Virginia. So they were interested in a particular area. And as you will know, as we'll find out, that's not exactly where the Pilgrims ended up.

Yeah. And as you say, Virginia. So they were interested in a particular area. And as you will know, as we'll find out, that's not exactly where the Pilgrims ended up.

Yeah. And as you say, Virginia. So they were interested in a particular area. And as you will know, as we'll find out, that's not exactly where the Pilgrims ended up.

Yeah, so there'd been previous contact, certainly, and exploration of the coast. So Captain John Smith, who you may know from the Pocahontas story, he'd been around there and he'd mapped that coast around 1616. And he'd brought that map back and shown it to the king. And they had named places along that coast.

Yeah, so there'd been previous contact, certainly, and exploration of the coast. So Captain John Smith, who you may know from the Pocahontas story, he'd been around there and he'd mapped that coast around 1616. And he'd brought that map back and shown it to the king. And they had named places along that coast.

Yeah, so there'd been previous contact, certainly, and exploration of the coast. So Captain John Smith, who you may know from the Pocahontas story, he'd been around there and he'd mapped that coast around 1616. And he'd brought that map back and shown it to the king. And they had named places along that coast.

Some of those places may have been where there had been Native American settlements, for example. But on that map, he named one of the places as New Plymouth. That wasn't a place at that point that had got any English people living there. They just got a map and they were going to put a load of British names on it.

Some of those places may have been where there had been Native American settlements, for example. But on that map, he named one of the places as New Plymouth. That wasn't a place at that point that had got any English people living there. They just got a map and they were going to put a load of British names on it.

Some of those places may have been where there had been Native American settlements, for example. But on that map, he named one of the places as New Plymouth. That wasn't a place at that point that had got any English people living there. They just got a map and they were going to put a load of British names on it.

Yeah, so as we head towards 1620, you have to appreciate that it's been 12 years that the pilgrims, the separatists, are in Holland before they leave. But there are a different set of reasons that pushes them towards that decision. And one of those reasons is there has been this truce with Spain. Spain's a Catholic country, and they really did not like the Catholics.