Annaka Harris

And the truth is, most of the things I write about and talk about and think about are so counterintuitive.

I mean, that's really what my game is, is breaking intuitions, shaking up intuitions in order to get a deeper understanding of reality.

I'm often, even though I've thought about this for 20 years and think about it all the time, it's an obsession of mine, really.

I have to get back into that mind frame to be able to think clearly about it because it is so counterintuitive.

It depends on if there are kids around or if I'm alone or if I've been meditating.

But what I was going to say, actually, I felt like we needed to just take one step back.

And talk a little bit, just because I think the importance of shaking up intuitions for scientific advancement is such an important piece of the scientific process.

And I think we've reached a point in consciousness studies where

it's very difficult to move forward.

And usually that's a sign that we need to start shaking up our intuition.

So throughout history, the huge breakthroughs, the things that have really shifted our view of the universe and our place in the universe and all of that, those almost always, if not always, require that we, at the very least,

shift our intuitions, update our intuitions, but many of them we just have to let go of intuitions that are feeding us false information about the way the world works.

Yeah, right, exactly.

It's very meta and makes it hard.

And it's part of the reason why

doing interviews for me feels so difficult, aside from the fact that I just have social anxiety in general.

Well, I was going to say, I mean, this leads into the point I was going to make, but what I was going to say is, I mean, also just for me, I feel like I...

I'm not as good at speaking as I am at writing, that I'm clearer in my writing.

And because these topics are so difficult to get our minds around, it's hard to kind of

get to any real conclusion in real time.