Anne Applebaum

So the prospect of a Russian victory doesn't make anybody feel like that would be an improvement.

And so they, too, have this feeling that there's no choice, you know, so that they will keep fighting on.

until some better solution is reached.

And I should say, there's another weird thing about this whole U.S.-Russia negotiation, which is that they seem to be acting as if the Ukrainians and the Europeans have no agency.

I mean, actually, the Europeans are now paying for the war.

You know, there is almost no U.S.

supplies going in.

They're paying for the war.

They are supporting Ukraine economically.

You know, so actually, even if the U.S.

did bow out, they could keep going.

I mean, and acting like this negotiation is some kind of U.S.-Russian agreement that doesn't involve the people who are actually doing the fighting and who are paying for the fighting is also very weird.

I mean, it's just not how you do diplomacy.

It's not going to get you to an agreement that makes sense.

And that's, again, why I question the motives of the people who are involved.

Not in huge numbers.

And the weapons that we're supplying, the thing that we have that other people don't have is air defense.

And so it's mostly that.

But most of the other weapons are coming from Europe or they're being made in Ukraine.

Yeah.