Anne Applebaum
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So I think the fear is that the United States will begin to say and do things that convince Russia that the deterrent is no longer valid. And that simply means they're vulnerable.
So I think the fear is that the United States will begin to say and do things that convince Russia that the deterrent is no longer valid. And that simply means they're vulnerable.
So to be clear, Europeans do have armies. Europeans have contributed half of all the aid that has gone to Ukraine since the war has begun. many Europeans have invested heavily in their armies and in their militaries over the last three years since the war started. It's not as if they have nothing.
So to be clear, Europeans do have armies. Europeans have contributed half of all the aid that has gone to Ukraine since the war has begun. many Europeans have invested heavily in their armies and in their militaries over the last three years since the war started. It's not as if they have nothing.
So to be clear, Europeans do have armies. Europeans have contributed half of all the aid that has gone to Ukraine since the war has begun. many Europeans have invested heavily in their armies and in their militaries over the last three years since the war started. It's not as if they have nothing.
But the way NATO is constructed, the way many European military systems are constructed, it is with the idea that the U.S. leads. And that's, of course, been of tremendous advantage to the U.S. It means that Europeans buy American military equipment. It means they defer to the United States on all kinds of decisions.
But the way NATO is constructed, the way many European military systems are constructed, it is with the idea that the U.S. leads. And that's, of course, been of tremendous advantage to the U.S. It means that Europeans buy American military equipment. It means they defer to the United States on all kinds of decisions.
But the way NATO is constructed, the way many European military systems are constructed, it is with the idea that the U.S. leads. And that's, of course, been of tremendous advantage to the U.S. It means that Europeans buy American military equipment. It means they defer to the United States on all kinds of decisions.
And the United States is the main decider in all kinds of security and economic and other contexts. If the United States pulls out rapidly or the American deterrent disappears rapidly, then it's not clear that Europe is immediately prepared to defend itself. But there was a meeting in Paris on Monday
And the United States is the main decider in all kinds of security and economic and other contexts. If the United States pulls out rapidly or the American deterrent disappears rapidly, then it's not clear that Europe is immediately prepared to defend itself. But there was a meeting in Paris on Monday
And the United States is the main decider in all kinds of security and economic and other contexts. If the United States pulls out rapidly or the American deterrent disappears rapidly, then it's not clear that Europe is immediately prepared to defend itself. But there was a meeting in Paris on Monday
That was the beginning of what I think will be a conversation about how Europe is going to respond in this new situation.
That was the beginning of what I think will be a conversation about how Europe is going to respond in this new situation.
That was the beginning of what I think will be a conversation about how Europe is going to respond in this new situation.
I think up until now, President Zelensky has been seeking to flatter Trump. Actually, the idea that Ukraine would sell some rare earth minerals to the United States was his idea. He came up with it last autumn. I think this weekend was a kind of break. in which he is beginning to feel that the tactics that worked in the first Trump administration don't work now.
I think up until now, President Zelensky has been seeking to flatter Trump. Actually, the idea that Ukraine would sell some rare earth minerals to the United States was his idea. He came up with it last autumn. I think this weekend was a kind of break. in which he is beginning to feel that the tactics that worked in the first Trump administration don't work now.
I think up until now, President Zelensky has been seeking to flatter Trump. Actually, the idea that Ukraine would sell some rare earth minerals to the United States was his idea. He came up with it last autumn. I think this weekend was a kind of break. in which he is beginning to feel that the tactics that worked in the first Trump administration don't work now.
And he's beginning to speak more to Europeans. He's also made it clear that any kind of ceasefire in Ukraine requires two sides. I mean, you need both sides to declare peace. It can't be one way. I think he's also wants to make it clear that a situation which Ukraine stops fighting, but has no guarantee that the Russians won't invade again next week or next month or next year,
And he's beginning to speak more to Europeans. He's also made it clear that any kind of ceasefire in Ukraine requires two sides. I mean, you need both sides to declare peace. It can't be one way. I think he's also wants to make it clear that a situation which Ukraine stops fighting, but has no guarantee that the Russians won't invade again next week or next month or next year,
And he's beginning to speak more to Europeans. He's also made it clear that any kind of ceasefire in Ukraine requires two sides. I mean, you need both sides to declare peace. It can't be one way. I think he's also wants to make it clear that a situation which Ukraine stops fighting, but has no guarantee that the Russians won't invade again next week or next month or next year,