Anne Applebaum

We're not at that stage yet, but there is a logic like that, that once it's okay to send a random person out of the country to a zone of lawlessness, once you can't get them back or you can't get the Venezuelan hairdresser back or even that you've sent a bunch of Venezuelans None of whose status we really know anything about. I mean, were they really illegal?

Were they, did they really commit crimes? And we have very little knowledge of that.

Were they, did they really commit crimes? And we have very little knowledge of that.

Were they, did they really commit crimes? And we have very little knowledge of that.

Once you've made the established that it's okay to do that under whatever ideology or explanation or justification, then if you can do it for one person, why can't you do it for ten people or a hundred people or a thousand people? And that was the logic. That was how the Soviet Gulag expanded. I mean, of course it was part of a much bigger system of fear and repression that we don't have yet.

Once you've made the established that it's okay to do that under whatever ideology or explanation or justification, then if you can do it for one person, why can't you do it for ten people or a hundred people or a thousand people? And that was the logic. That was how the Soviet Gulag expanded. I mean, of course it was part of a much bigger system of fear and repression that we don't have yet.

Once you've made the established that it's okay to do that under whatever ideology or explanation or justification, then if you can do it for one person, why can't you do it for ten people or a hundred people or a thousand people? And that was the logic. That was how the Soviet Gulag expanded. I mean, of course it was part of a much bigger system of fear and repression that we don't have yet.

So I don't want to make a direct comparison. They aren't exactly the same thing yet. But yeah, there is a logic to Ich glaube, das ist genau so, wie es funktioniert. Ich meine, es gibt auch etwas, es gibt auch etwas Ähnliches, in dem, du weißt, viele der größten Notorious Camps der Gulag waren weit weg und niemand hat sie gesehen.

So I don't want to make a direct comparison. They aren't exactly the same thing yet. But yeah, there is a logic to Ich glaube, das ist genau so, wie es funktioniert. Ich meine, es gibt auch etwas, es gibt auch etwas Ähnliches, in dem, du weißt, viele der größten Notorious Camps der Gulag waren weit weg und niemand hat sie gesehen.

So I don't want to make a direct comparison. They aren't exactly the same thing yet. But yeah, there is a logic to Ich glaube, das ist genau so, wie es funktioniert. Ich meine, es gibt auch etwas, es gibt auch etwas Ähnliches, in dem, du weißt, viele der größten Notorious Camps der Gulag waren weit weg und niemand hat sie gesehen.

Und du könntest dein Leben in Moskau oder in, ich weiß nicht, Novosibirsk leben und du könntest durch die Your day and you wouldn't be aware that there was this great injustice happening somewhere else inside your country. And the El Salvador camps serve that function in a way, too. I mean, they, you know, are we bothered walking down the street in Washington, D.C.

Und du könntest dein Leben in Moskau oder in, ich weiß nicht, Novosibirsk leben und du könntest durch die Your day and you wouldn't be aware that there was this great injustice happening somewhere else inside your country. And the El Salvador camps serve that function in a way, too. I mean, they, you know, are we bothered walking down the street in Washington, D.C.

Und du könntest dein Leben in Moskau oder in, ich weiß nicht, Novosibirsk leben und du könntest durch die Your day and you wouldn't be aware that there was this great injustice happening somewhere else inside your country. And the El Salvador camps serve that function in a way, too. I mean, they, you know, are we bothered walking down the street in Washington, D.C.

or Minneapolis or Dallas, Texas, thinking about. People who've been unjustly shipped to a foreign prison. I mean, we don't see it. It's not part of our daily life. And that's another way in which you can see how these monstrous prisons function and why they're able to function. And then the third thing I would say, I mean, we haven't really had this national conversation yet.

or Minneapolis or Dallas, Texas, thinking about. People who've been unjustly shipped to a foreign prison. I mean, we don't see it. It's not part of our daily life. And that's another way in which you can see how these monstrous prisons function and why they're able to function. And then the third thing I would say, I mean, we haven't really had this national conversation yet.

or Minneapolis or Dallas, Texas, thinking about. People who've been unjustly shipped to a foreign prison. I mean, we don't see it. It's not part of our daily life. And that's another way in which you can see how these monstrous prisons function and why they're able to function. And then the third thing I would say, I mean, we haven't really had this national conversation yet.

But at some point it's going to be important to ask, who are these people doing the arresting and putting these people unjustly away? Are they cops or are they immigration officials who are stopping students who may or may not have student visa problems on the street? and bundling them away into cars. Because no dictatorship is never the work of a single man or even a few people.

But at some point it's going to be important to ask, who are these people doing the arresting and putting these people unjustly away? Are they cops or are they immigration officials who are stopping students who may or may not have student visa problems on the street? and bundling them away into cars. Because no dictatorship is never the work of a single man or even a few people.

But at some point it's going to be important to ask, who are these people doing the arresting and putting these people unjustly away? Are they cops or are they immigration officials who are stopping students who may or may not have student visa problems on the street? and bundling them away into cars. Because no dictatorship is never the work of a single man or even a few people.

There's always an apparatus that wants to do it, that's motivated to do it, that has reasons why it thinks those things are just. They're the ones who, some of the justification is for them as well. So it's not just that they're saying Garcia, Abrego Garcia is You know, is a vicious criminal. It's not just for us, it's also for the people who are doing the arresting.