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Anne Applebaum

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

They had the papers and the documents and the data to prove it. Nevertheless, Maduro, who's now the dictator, stays in power. How does he do that? One of the most important ways is that he has military support from Russia. He has investment from China. He has help with his security services from Cuba. He has, and as he said, he has this weird relationship with Iran.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

Why do left-wing socialist Venezuela and Islamic Republic of Iran work together? Well, they're both oil states. They're both under sanctions. They help one another evade sanctions. The Venezuelans have lent visas, we think, to Iran. Hezbollah activists so that they can travel freely. They see themselves as united essentially against us.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

Why do left-wing socialist Venezuela and Islamic Republic of Iran work together? Well, they're both oil states. They're both under sanctions. They help one another evade sanctions. The Venezuelans have lent visas, we think, to Iran. Hezbollah activists so that they can travel freely. They see themselves as united essentially against us.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

Why do left-wing socialist Venezuela and Islamic Republic of Iran work together? Well, they're both oil states. They're both under sanctions. They help one another evade sanctions. The Venezuelans have lent visas, we think, to Iran. Hezbollah activists so that they can travel freely. They see themselves as united essentially against us.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

And by us, I mean very broadly the democratic world, the world where, at least in theory, we believe in the rule of law and accountability and transparency. And they help one another stay in power working against us. And they see the ideas that we represent as their biggest threat. So

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

And by us, I mean very broadly the democratic world, the world where, at least in theory, we believe in the rule of law and accountability and transparency. And they help one another stay in power working against us. And they see the ideas that we represent as their biggest threat. So

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

And by us, I mean very broadly the democratic world, the world where, at least in theory, we believe in the rule of law and accountability and transparency. And they help one another stay in power working against us. And they see the ideas that we represent as their biggest threat. So

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

the language of accountability, the language of rights, the language of justice, all that language, which is, of course, in dispute in every country on the planet, but all that language is what they see. It's the language of their own oppositions. It's the language of the Venezuelan opposition. The Russian opposition used the language of anti-corruption.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

the language of accountability, the language of rights, the language of justice, all that language, which is, of course, in dispute in every country on the planet, but all that language is what they see. It's the language of their own oppositions. It's the language of the Venezuelan opposition. The Russian opposition used the language of anti-corruption.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

the language of accountability, the language of rights, the language of justice, all that language, which is, of course, in dispute in every country on the planet, but all that language is what they see. It's the language of their own oppositions. It's the language of the Venezuelan opposition. The Russian opposition used the language of anti-corruption.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

The Iranian opposition, the women's movement in Iran uses the language of rights. They see that language as their biggest threat to their form of And that's the fundamental thing that they have in common.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

The Iranian opposition, the women's movement in Iran uses the language of rights. They see that language as their biggest threat to their form of And that's the fundamental thing that they have in common.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

The Iranian opposition, the women's movement in Iran uses the language of rights. They see that language as their biggest threat to their form of And that's the fundamental thing that they have in common.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

Yeah, this is exactly the metaphor that I wanted. You know, it's as if there were a conglomerate of companies and each one of them had their own business model, but they cooperate where it suits them. You know, so where a moment of trade suits them or where they see a common interest or something that they can do together, they work together.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

Yeah, this is exactly the metaphor that I wanted. You know, it's as if there were a conglomerate of companies and each one of them had their own business model, but they cooperate where it suits them. You know, so where a moment of trade suits them or where they see a common interest or something that they can do together, they work together.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

Yeah, this is exactly the metaphor that I wanted. You know, it's as if there were a conglomerate of companies and each one of them had their own business model, but they cooperate where it suits them. You know, so where a moment of trade suits them or where they see a common interest or something that they can do together, they work together.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

Yeah, I mean, BRICS doesn't overlap exactly with Autocracy, Inc. Let me complicate that further. So there are the real autocratic states. There's also a large group of states in the middle. And here I would put India. I would put the Emirates. I would put Turkey, who are their illiberal states. Some of them still have elections. Some of them have some freedoms, some of which are more hybrid.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

Yeah, I mean, BRICS doesn't overlap exactly with Autocracy, Inc. Let me complicate that further. So there are the real autocratic states. There's also a large group of states in the middle. And here I would put India. I would put the Emirates. I would put Turkey, who are their illiberal states. Some of them still have elections. Some of them have some freedoms, some of which are more hybrid.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

Yeah, I mean, BRICS doesn't overlap exactly with Autocracy, Inc. Let me complicate that further. So there are the real autocratic states. There's also a large group of states in the middle. And here I would put India. I would put the Emirates. I would put Turkey, who are their illiberal states. Some of them still have elections. Some of them have some freedoms, some of which are more hybrid.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships

They're willing to work both with the democratic world and the autocratic world. Of course, many democracies work with the autocratic world, too. So it's not the Cold War. It's not as if there's a Berlin Wall and there are good guys on one side and there are bad guys on the other and there are clear lines between them.