Anne-Marie Green

Right, right. The punishment is the punishment. And he's going to be behind bars for a really long time. I think, I know for me, the most frustrating part of this story, though, is that we don't get to hear a why because he's not talking and he didn't testify.

Right, right. The punishment is the punishment. And he's going to be behind bars for a really long time. I think, I know for me, the most frustrating part of this story, though, is that we don't get to hear a why because he's not talking and he didn't testify.

Right, right. The punishment is the punishment. And he's going to be behind bars for a really long time. I think, I know for me, the most frustrating part of this story, though, is that we don't get to hear a why because he's not talking and he didn't testify.

So even though, I mean, we really don't know what happened in that apartment or why it happened, the fact that he was convicted after 25-odd years, does the family feel like they've received closure, that there's justice? Or are there so many still unanswered questions that there can never be closure?

So even though, I mean, we really don't know what happened in that apartment or why it happened, the fact that he was convicted after 25-odd years, does the family feel like they've received closure, that there's justice? Or are there so many still unanswered questions that there can never be closure?

So even though, I mean, we really don't know what happened in that apartment or why it happened, the fact that he was convicted after 25-odd years, does the family feel like they've received closure, that there's justice? Or are there so many still unanswered questions that there can never be closure?

Erin, another fascinating story. I learned more about DNA and I thought I knew a lot. I learned about footprints and whether or not they make for good evidence. And thanks for joining us.

Erin, another fascinating story. I learned more about DNA and I thought I knew a lot. I learned about footprints and whether or not they make for good evidence. And thanks for joining us.

Erin, another fascinating story. I learned more about DNA and I thought I knew a lot. I learned about footprints and whether or not they make for good evidence. And thanks for joining us.

Well, thank you. I really, really appreciate it. And I appreciate the listeners having listened to all of our episodes of Postmortem. Postmortem is hosted by me, Anne-Marie Green. Our producer is Annie Cronenberg. Kiara Norbitz is the coordinating producer. Jamie Benson oversees technical production. Alan Pang and Reginald Bazile are our engineers. Mixing by Pedro Rafael Rosado.

Well, thank you. I really, really appreciate it. And I appreciate the listeners having listened to all of our episodes of Postmortem. Postmortem is hosted by me, Anne-Marie Green. Our producer is Annie Cronenberg. Kiara Norbitz is the coordinating producer. Jamie Benson oversees technical production. Alan Pang and Reginald Bazile are our engineers. Mixing by Pedro Rafael Rosado.

Well, thank you. I really, really appreciate it. And I appreciate the listeners having listened to all of our episodes of Postmortem. Postmortem is hosted by me, Anne-Marie Green. Our producer is Annie Cronenberg. Kiara Norbitz is the coordinating producer. Jamie Benson oversees technical production. Alan Pang and Reginald Bazile are our engineers. Mixing by Pedro Rafael Rosado.

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Natalie, I don't know about you, but one of the questions that I always have when I watch true crime is, you know, I always want to know, well, how did we get here? How did this person end up like this? So here we had an opportunity to start from the very beginning. And a huge part of the story has to do with Sean Doyle's history of domestic violence.

Natalie, I don't know about you, but one of the questions that I always have when I watch true crime is, you know, I always want to know, well, how did we get here? How did this person end up like this? So here we had an opportunity to start from the very beginning. And a huge part of the story has to do with Sean Doyle's history of domestic violence.