Anne-Marie Green

We want to remind everyone, of course, if you haven't listened to this hour, head on over to your feed. You'll find this episode of 48 Hours right above this one. Go listen and then come on back and we can talk about it. When I started watching this, The case reminded me of actually the first 48 hours I ever did.

Several years ago, it was the case of Angie Dodge, a teenager, an 18-year-old who was killed in her brand new apartment. And the case went unsolved for many, many years until they used genetic genealogy to track down her killer. It was kind of newish then. This is a very similar case. But the thing about this case is... You know, you think you find the DNA, you find the match, it's a home run.

Several years ago, it was the case of Angie Dodge, a teenager, an 18-year-old who was killed in her brand new apartment. And the case went unsolved for many, many years until they used genetic genealogy to track down her killer. It was kind of newish then. This is a very similar case. But the thing about this case is... You know, you think you find the DNA, you find the match, it's a home run.

Several years ago, it was the case of Angie Dodge, a teenager, an 18-year-old who was killed in her brand new apartment. And the case went unsolved for many, many years until they used genetic genealogy to track down her killer. It was kind of newish then. This is a very similar case. But the thing about this case is... You know, you think you find the DNA, you find the match, it's a home run.

But in this case, in the apartment, there was a lot of DNA. So not necessarily a home run.

But in this case, in the apartment, there was a lot of DNA. So not necessarily a home run.

But in this case, in the apartment, there was a lot of DNA. So not necessarily a home run.

Because just because DNA is found, you can't tell when that DNA was deposited. Right.

Because just because DNA is found, you can't tell when that DNA was deposited. Right.

Because just because DNA is found, you can't tell when that DNA was deposited. Right.

Now, I think at this point, one of the most, I guess, famous investigations that was solved because of genetic genealogy was the case of the Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo. Were the investigators inspired by that case? And is that why they kind of went down that route?

Now, I think at this point, one of the most, I guess, famous investigations that was solved because of genetic genealogy was the case of the Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo. Were the investigators inspired by that case? And is that why they kind of went down that route?

Now, I think at this point, one of the most, I guess, famous investigations that was solved because of genetic genealogy was the case of the Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo. Were the investigators inspired by that case? And is that why they kind of went down that route?

So therein lies the challenge. They have to somehow get a DNA sample from Jerry. And I thought it was really interesting in the hour... how they talked about, you know, a mouth sample, a saliva sample is better than anything else. And this is the first time I actually considered why they want mouth swabs, why they always look for, you know, something a suspect may have put in their mouth, a drink.

So therein lies the challenge. They have to somehow get a DNA sample from Jerry. And I thought it was really interesting in the hour... how they talked about, you know, a mouth sample, a saliva sample is better than anything else. And this is the first time I actually considered why they want mouth swabs, why they always look for, you know, something a suspect may have put in their mouth, a drink.

So therein lies the challenge. They have to somehow get a DNA sample from Jerry. And I thought it was really interesting in the hour... how they talked about, you know, a mouth sample, a saliva sample is better than anything else. And this is the first time I actually considered why they want mouth swabs, why they always look for, you know, something a suspect may have put in their mouth, a drink.

But they go, the FBI agents in 2019, they go all the way to Wisconsin to track him down at a hockey game. Why do they have to go that far?

But they go, the FBI agents in 2019, they go all the way to Wisconsin to track him down at a hockey game. Why do they have to go that far?

But they go, the FBI agents in 2019, they go all the way to Wisconsin to track him down at a hockey game. Why do they have to go that far?

Wow. And so they get the DNA sample and they make an arrest. How did Jeannie's family react to hearing about who the suspect was?