Anneke Lucas

No.

But she was not mentally well, so you could never really count on anything she said.

She never really told the truth.

It didn't really mean anything to her.

There was another girl, and I write about her in my book, that wasn't quite from the village, but was somebody from an aristocratic family who was also being abused in the network.

And the only difference between us was that I was, you know, I could be killed anytime.

She wouldn't be killed anytime.

But she did get pregnant very young.

I believe at nine years old, she even got pregnant.

So then they had they performed an abortion on her.

So, you know, it's not like these children maybe would not be killed.

You know, they could be killed anyway, because what they they get, they they suffer tremendous abuse as well.

Never.

That was all the programming.

Even in Belgium, which was not like the high-tech programming that I received in Germany, they were also making sure that we would never speak.

They were making the children do things to make us feel super guilty so that we would never speak, so that we would feel that we are the bad ones, we're the guilty ones.

So that happens, you know, with animals.

Awful, awful stuff.

The Belgians were just as crazy and bloodthirsty and horrific as the others.

They just weren't as organized at that time.