Anneke Lucas

He wanted it to come from me.

But so...

Didn't know that.

But anyway, once that sexuality started with him, it became extreme.

And then everything that made him into a crazy gangster, he put that on me.

You could say he, you know, there's a lot of violence.

He stabbed me in the place where he had been stabbed in the back of the knee.

He put a gun to my head.

Wow.

That had also been done to him in an extreme moment.

That was all done by his father, and his parents were incestuous parents, and he was repeating that all the time.

And eventually I was going to be killed.

And I ended up defying him again in a moment, in an extreme moment.

I had a moment where I was, because of him, I was, you know, going to be killed, going to be eliminated.

Because of him?

Because of him, yeah, because he was done with me and it was a year later and they never heard back from Rockefeller.

So I have this scar here.

I don't know if you can see it.

When I turn my arm like that, it looks like... Move the water bottle.

there this scar here yeah okay so this is round now because i had my arm like that the guy was grabbing me like that and he put a cigarette out on my arm oh burn mark so it's a burn mark so when i stretch my arm it's yes it's like a line yeah yeah i have and then anyway he um in that moment that this happened when my arm was being burned