Anneke Lucas

Because he was limping because his father had stabbed him in the back of the knee when he was... Yeah, you mentioned that.

No, not at all.

She just saw him at the orgies.

So those four girls, Mark Dutroux was a pimp who got a little too big for his britches, and he ended up instead of... So what pimps generally in that time, what they used to do is infiltrate into families like mine, like those pimps had done with us, and then get the children, pay the parents, and then if the children would die, they would just have a doctor make up a certificate, a death certificate, and they would make up a story so that it would be believable.

And so they could do whatever they wanted with the children.

But Mark Dutroux started kidnapping kids.

So he was just a pimp like the others, but instead of infiltrating into an incestuous, dysfunctional family, he ended up kidnapping children.

And those parents, of course, were looking for their children.

Now, there's a lot of children that are kidnapped for the network for different purposes.

That is also true.

Yes.

It's very difficult, for example, to find real numbers of children that are missing.

Yes.

In Belgium, in fact, you couldn't even get a national number.

You had to go district by district.

So the police that was initially investigating this case, they tried to go...

into the different places to try to find... So anyway, yes.

I'm sure.

Yeah, yes.

And kids are sold.