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Annie Elise

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Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

And then it started to build from there where if you really now were a part of this online community and you really were passionate and believed about the stuff that was being put out there, you were welcome to join the conversation in a deeper way and you could then refer to yourself as a Zizian.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

Now, to be a Zizian, you also needed to be a very strict vegan.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

Not just no cheese, no eggs, not something like that, but very, very vegan.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

So much so that some of them believed that eating meat was essentially the same as committing mass murder, which again, feels very, very extreme to me, but what do I know?

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

Now, there were even some blog posts put out there arguing that killing a meat-eater could actually be justified.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

Because according to Zizians, if the meat-eater was dead, then it was ultimately preventing more future harm from being done.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

Which...

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

I guess I could theoretically understand that for a moment.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

And before you guys get carried away and like clip this a million ways to say that I'm justifying murdering people who aren't vegans, let me just explain.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

I could understand where somebody could think or get to the place of, oh, if this person eats steak all day every day and they die, then it saves the cow's life.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

But then it takes you to the bigger conversation of like the circle of life, animals, sustainability, all these things.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

But, you know, I'm not here to get philosophical with you.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

That's not my forte.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

That's not my area of expertise.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

I'm just saying like not that I would ever get to the point of thinking that that makes enough sense to where I'd be like, yeah, so we got to kill that meat eater.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

But I could see where possibly the entry point of justification came in, even just a tiny bit, even just squeezing it in a little bit.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

Now, another huge focus that was central to Zizian ideology was artificial intelligence.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

Zizians believed that if we built artificial intelligence in the wrong way, that it could completely just wipe out humanity, which they're not totally wrong, right?

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

It is scary.

Serialously with Annie Elise
344: Vegan Hipsters Start Their Own Murdering Cult?! | The Zizian Group

Who knows where we're going to go with AI?