Annie Elise
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And then it started to build from there where if you really now were a part of this online community and you really were passionate and believed about the stuff that was being put out there, you were welcome to join the conversation in a deeper way and you could then refer to yourself as a Zizian.
Now, to be a Zizian, you also needed to be a very strict vegan.
Not just no cheese, no eggs, not something like that, but very, very vegan.
So much so that some of them believed that eating meat was essentially the same as committing mass murder, which again, feels very, very extreme to me, but what do I know?
Now, there were even some blog posts put out there arguing that killing a meat-eater could actually be justified.
Because according to Zizians, if the meat-eater was dead, then it was ultimately preventing more future harm from being done.
Which...
I guess I could theoretically understand that for a moment.
And before you guys get carried away and like clip this a million ways to say that I'm justifying murdering people who aren't vegans, let me just explain.
I could understand where somebody could think or get to the place of, oh, if this person eats steak all day every day and they die, then it saves the cow's life.
But then it takes you to the bigger conversation of like the circle of life, animals, sustainability, all these things.
But, you know, I'm not here to get philosophical with you.
That's not my forte.
That's not my area of expertise.
I'm just saying like not that I would ever get to the point of thinking that that makes enough sense to where I'd be like, yeah, so we got to kill that meat eater.
But I could see where possibly the entry point of justification came in, even just a tiny bit, even just squeezing it in a little bit.
Now, another huge focus that was central to Zizian ideology was artificial intelligence.
Zizians believed that if we built artificial intelligence in the wrong way, that it could completely just wipe out humanity, which they're not totally wrong, right?
It is scary.
Who knows where we're going to go with AI?